Their goal was to make Dian look crazy, because sane people dont shoot their children. Page 6 of Case History. As for Diane, give me a break. Simply because I researched them. Yep, Downs who was found guilty in 1984, escaped successfully from the Oregon Womens Correctional Center in 1987 and was transferred to Jersey afterwards. I dont know how familiar she was with the area, but I do not think that it matters anyway. I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. Diane was instructed to reenact her response to the attacker who murdered her daughter. Charlene would call Diane at all hours of the day and night to threaten violence if Diane continued on with her husband. Instead, the person accused of attacking them and wanting them out of her life, fought for them. This is not the reason she is still locked up. I saw that same face in Diane Downs. The details about the gun missing, the daughters testimony and the fact that she had no blood or gun residues are facts. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business. Not optional, kids should not be in limbo that long, but it happens all the time. Hello. It was in Mesa that Diane had an affair with a coworker and became pregnant yet again. Plus according to an expert at trial, her testimony did not match the blood spatter analysis in the car. Susan, I dont know if there ever was a lawsuit against Ann Rule from the Fredericksons family. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as, To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for, Belli filed a motion for a 2-week extension to familiarize himself with the case because he had to be in Italy, and declared Diane innocent in a press conference, but Foote denied the motion and declared . No forensic evidence pointing to her, just conjecture based on how mothers should act. Discovery, Inc. or its subsidiaries and affiliates. Results for this person or the person you are looking for are not guaranteed to appear in search results. Eventually, in early 1983, Knickerbocker told Downs that he was not going to leave his wife for her and that he did not want to be father to Downs children or any children, for that matter. ..it is quite possible if she was tried in todays world, with the evidence they hadquite possible it would of went differentlywe been living in a society that pretty much demand 100% pure forensic evidence provenprobably over 10 years or longer, people expect trials to be that of a law and order TV show..I cant say thats a bad thing, or makes what happened in the 80s on back bad. Yes Gigi, the same judge who had removed the children was also presiding over her trial. It was kind of interesting to hear Mossimo Giannullis lawyer pleading to have his client sent home or put in general population because his mental health suffered drastically in solitary confinement because of covid after 56 consecutive days in solitary. He could not during the marriage so he walked away. In a fairly good knot which would have taken time to do one handed and teeth. The grandparents were babysitting the children often and had several children who were well adjusted. From what Ive read, she gets a parole hearing every decade and the next time in 2030 she will be 75. Let me tell you, it wasnt just the investigators and the prosecution that didnt believe herwe, Oregonians, (who ACTUALLY live here and watched what was happening) believe she is guilty. Q. And the flat affect and sometimes inappropriate smiling would come with the territory so you cannot judge her actions without taking into account that she might not have been acting according to the norms. Years later, Christie was heard saying by classmates that she did not know who shot her. The problem with high profile cases is that the media, the DA, the cops and authors like Ann Rule dictate the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to look any other way unless you are a critical thinker devoid of emotions related to the case. I am a strong believer that pregnancy can do serious harm to some women. It is not, nor should be, a Conflict of Interest for a caring adult to Foster one or more siblings. But showing no remorse is part of claiming her innocence and part of the vicious circle of parole hearings. I dont understand how the family court managed to isolate 2 severely traumatized and grievously injured children from their entire family. The way this investigation and the trial were conducted only left me with doubts. This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. Dianes injury had to be quite painful and shewas in shockwhile driving to the hospital and accompanying the detectives to the crime scene. If not from her high profile status, she would already be out. It goes on and on. Makes no difference to me. And Steven would hunt her down anyway and charm his way back into her life. Because she had driven that area for years for her work. Someone can have an evil vibe and not be guilty of a crime. Her power to manipulate is why she is where she is to begin with. Weve become friends. Phoenix, AZ 85006 Map . Are her parents still living (I know they were a few years ago)? Ive done my research. Pinterest is an online pinboard. You seem to forget that even a few jurors started by voting not guilty on some of the charges. So appropriate! I just tried to find a video or article about Hugi and I only get the one or two that I already have. Downs was born in Phoenix, Arizona, on August 7, 1955, to Danish and English American parents Wesley Linden and Willadene Frederickson. Robert and Diane even decided toget matching rose tattoos, but as soon as the ink on her tattoo was dry, he refused to get his done. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. The board said that her mental or emotional disorder makes her a danger to society. Robert came clean to his wife about the affair, and then, went on to help the police in their investigation. DA Pat Horton declared early in the game to the local paper that the search for the bearded stranger was not very high on their priority list.. It was pretty apparent during the course of this saga that the media and the state were willing to give a free pass to anyone willing to badmouth Diane. They were not truth seekers and enjoyed a nice burning at the stake instead. Giving to charity is a meaningful way to honor someone who has died. So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed. There is her story, the prosecution case and the defense arguments. So yes I think she did it, I think ration left her a long before she did itI think post pardum played in this, I think, she was scattered all over the map.againjust hearing it in her own words. Interesting that the article has one of the same elements that Diane perpetrated when she drove to the hospital the night of the murders she made more of a fuss about her arm injury than she did about one of her kids dying and two of them being gravely and permanently wounded. Dean has 2 jobs listed on their profile. The children should have been receiving therapy throughout. Kidnapped in broad daylight at home with her children present, she bravely made a 911 call, however a tragic mistake would seal her fate. Other Locations Watertown, NY Scottsdale, AZ . They rarely are, especially in the US. Robert Knickerbocker in Scottsdale, AZ Robert Knickerbocker may also have lived outside of Scottsdale, such as Phoenix. I lived in Eugene, Oregon for years. I will post it when I get it. You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. He knows as he was in court and must have photos. Current Address: ZANZ N La Cholla Blvd, Tucson, AZ. I am glad you read it anyway and I appreciate your comment. Background details that you might want to know about Robert include: ethnicity is unknown, whose political affiliation is none; and religious views are listed as unknown. Police witness reports of strangers and confessions were suppressed or not pursued. So the prosecutor adopted the kids? On May 30, 1983, the McKenzie-Willamette Hospital Chaplain told Dianes father to hire an attorney because the State was going to take his grandchildren away. Everywhere, EXCEPT the door through which Diane reported to police, the male stranger had passed. Page 37 of Case History. View their profile including current address, phone number 480-307-XXXX, background check reports, and property record on Whitepages, the most trusted online directory. You are telling me to take my smugness elsewhere because it is tiresome. The fact that they used her daughter and lied about the gun they could never find makes it a wrongful conviction. But Diane couldnt do that. The children were in the hospital, it isnt like they could have taken them home. Even if the nurses notes indicated countless times that the children asked for their mother and enjoyed her visits, they cut them off from the only family they knew and loved; supposedly for their own protection. Rule made up stories to sell books and the rights to a movie. Considering that the daughter she murdered will never get a second chance, it will never be long enough unless its for her entire life. All of it is explained in the blog you didnt bother reading. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. Twitter is an internet service where users can update the world in real-time as to their current activities, thoughts and location in 140 characters or less. Too bad it triggered you, maybe try to stay away from sites that might not go along with the mob mentality and usual media narrative. You wondered at times, which side he was working for. For Downs, this was the last straw in a series of culminating disappointments in her life. In high school, she met handsome Steven Downs who saw her for the great beauty she had become. Plus, Diane could have never cleaned her clothes and her hair to remove blood and gun powder. but I think there are some extreme cases that knock women in a bad psychotic way that can be life threatening. Im glad you continued to look for more information as time went on. She should of been sentenced to death. Were they involved in the plot too?? And, while Cheryl died, the other two children survived with terrible wounds Danny was left paralyzed from the waist down and Christie suffered a stroke that left her with a speech impairment. You are right. It was very unfair to raise them away from their grandparents and other blood relatives. Every single one. One of them named Angel, called 15-year-old Christie on the phone. A second child, Cheryl, quickly followed in January 1976. Wasnt he the stranger? I can only imagine to absolute horror of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca during their horrific murders. I found nothing. Don't know what in the world came over me, Christopher P. Stokes told a Wisconsin court. A long long time ago. So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety. They now throw people in prison in the US for debts. Most get through it fine, maybe some complications or pain, maybe even some post pardum. . He was questioned, yes, but the police never had a reason to doubt him. Plus, the circumstances of this charade were more than sinister. #corrupt. What got her convicted was two things the towel and Christie. While not evidence of guilt or innocence, it is certainly worth noting as part of the overall wrongs perpetrated during this fiasco of a trial and subsequent appeals. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. There was no blood on the front seats so Cheryl was laying down and Christie was asleep laying down and never witnessed anything. Detectives, like the hospital staff, were struck by Downs aloof attitude about the shootings and the fact that one of her children had been killed. Let others know about your loved one's death. There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. Anne Rule might have inflamed the case with her book Small Sacrifices and her theory of the crime, but in reality, the case of Diane Downs was no small sacrifice. I had visited Dr. Billings site several times and it is too bad that it was removed. The two mental disorders that cause excessive talking are Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia. Mr. Jagger read the report and said, you were right. Yes, I had filed for divorce and then I canceled it. It is not my point. Work: Rising Tide LP - General Partner, Rising Tide LTD Partnership - Chief Executive Officer, knickerbocker investments - owner +1 more. I will not remove anything. I know that most people think she is guilty. Lived In Phoenix AZ, Salt Lake City UT, Spring TX . He could then have initiated the licensing process to foster and then adopt the children. It does not get any bigger than this. This is what Mrs Downs had to say about the situation. You have that part absolutely right, so why was this protocol ignored? Now Diane Downs did not say any of this, but told a hard to believe story, and then changed it from one to two masked guys, etc. This video has Dianes attorney, Jim Jagger, at 1 minutes and 20 seconds that might have some good shots. Arizona's governor, AG, condemn as 'barbaric' induced labor of . What about the fact that they never found the gun? Her persona allowed them to build this ironclad narrative when in fact, it was far from definite. CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. So I did not post your comment about his answer to your inquiry. Her husband turned out to be a player and a very irresponsible guy who did not really love her. If the police department had done their job properly, I would not have written this blog, no matter the outcome. Resides in Woodlawn, TN. Tucson, Arizona, United States. He was buried at burial place, Arizona. Search for birth, death, marriage, divorce, US Census, and military records. Select the best result to find their address, phone number, relatives, and public records. It was far fetched, unfoundedand convenientlyrelayedby Rule to boost the sales of her book. Or maybe an upvote/downvote arrow for each. A. I believe Charlene and I had a big blowout around Thanksgiving and I left, called Diane. On June 2nd, 1983, Juvenile Court Judge Gregory Foote held a hearing to take Christie and Danny away from ALL blood family (thus isolating them). Speculative. The courts were divided in the 80s, family court, traffic court, criminal court, juvenile court I dont believe they ran out of judges to preside over them all. Just saw the video of Dianes parole hearing. ..maybe it was lack of Internet and cellies *shrug)..years later, my Co worker at burger King (I was 16)told me about the small sacrifices movie she watched the night before. I know several foster parents and social workers. Not right at all. Removing the children from her and presiding over her criminal trial? What I explain in the blog is that the fact that Foote is the one who removed the children from Dianes care is exactly why he should NOT have been presiding over her murder trial. But my beef is with the interference by the media, TV shows and Ann Rule. Even if I have no doubt that Hugi loved the kids, we have to wonder why he adopted them two years later just when little Christie started saying she had no clue who shot them. But it is not hard to see that the way this tape and her confession were obtained was not legitimate. Additionally, homicide or assault victims shot by someone else can test positive for GSR. What man has ever publicly revered a former secret mistress? You read a few comments. Ive been trying to decipher her handwriting on the couple of pages she wrote to her daughter (misquoted on here somewhere is a highlighted If you love your little boy, youll take him far away from here- why is this being taken as a threat and not a warning?!). But Diane was not the one dragging Knick out of Charlenes bed every morning intent on making or breaking his relationship with another woman. Saudi Princesses in Captivity for More Than a Thousand and One Nights Are Tweeting the Blues, Having recently done research on the Liysa Northons case which was the subject of a book written by Ann Rule titled, Some 287 errors and falsehoods were documented by Liysa and verified by official sources. Whatever mental illness she has, has gotten worse with each hearing. Mission accomplished. So, were there any other attempted carjackings in the area that night? No. Knickerbocker even reportedly told Downs hed leave his wife and move to Oregon to be with her, where she'd taken a job with the U.S. She entertained the idea of opening a surrogacy agency but the project never really took off. Knickerbocker, Robert C.Robert C. Knickerbocker, age 82 of Tucson, AZ, passed away on May 15, 2015 in Tucson. She had the right to a fair trial as much as anyone else out there. This is a more common route for children with parents who are incarcerated for what looks to be the entire childhood of the children. View property details and household demographic information related to income, investments, and interests. It was positive only on a small portion of her upper hand where she said the gun touched her when she wrestled with the attacker (a detail she had mentioned before they did the test). Instead, there is blood splatter on the ceiling of the car. And after Diane left Arizona she didnt call Knick to inquire about his love, but rather about when he would repay the $500 (Appendix 81, pages 1479-1480). So imagine when you are troubled to begin with. 4. It is because she is a high profile person. Lise lasalle you mention THIS When she (Diane) resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. Tracy, I never said she was in the car. Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. In my blog, I was referring to the case of Liysa Northon whose suit was dismissed, but when Ann Rule tried to sue the Seattle Magazine, its editor and Northons husband for their article on her shoddy work, she lost and had to pay restitution. Spokeo's database, while extensive, does not contain all U.S. warrant, arrest, court, or other related records. Diane needs some serious spiritual advancement and atonement before she ever will have or deserve peace. And their plan worked. I am not one sided. This unexpected proposal took Diane by surprise at a large family gathering. I know better now than to accept blindly the truth presented to us on a silver platter by the media and the judicial system. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business: argumentative I am not saying that Diane was a saint or Ann Rule a demon. I was curious as to what these requirements were, as I have not seen these online. Click to read The Case of Liysa Northon Who Said True Crime Does not Pay? To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for6 monthsin 2011, and there was also talk of a suspension in 2015. From reading the blog and my little understanding of this case, Ms Downs remains in custody as she is considered a dangerous offender. Tis why at 10 years old I was hearing about this case in Ohio, and family members talked about it around me.it hit with great force that way. 6. She may be highly vulnerable to losing control of her emotions in emotionally charged situations, creating faulty judgment and ineffective and inappropriate behavior. If you had commented on one of the elements contained in the blog, it might have been enlightening. Yet, that is exactly what the videotape showsDiane laughing hysterically about hurting her arm. When they recaptured her, she was very docile. My website is in the process of being migrated so it has no photos. Leslie Van Houten is an example of a woman who probably will never see the light of day because of her high profile status. If I feel that due process was violated, I will go there anyway. They were in a difficult situation becausewithout evidence, they could notcharge her for the crime. This was the prosecution and conviction of (Elizabeth) Diane Downs who has now been incarcerated for too many years in one of Californias (overcrowded) State prisons. Mr. Our legal system is not perfect. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture. I think she was the only one there that night with her children. 4. Whats wrong with the system is whats wrong with us. Not that Dianes mental health was not a factor in her letter, but it was definitely taken out of context in some instances. Her children were obviously more severely injuredbecause being captive in the car while a shooter aimed at them gave them less of a chance to wiggle out of the situation than an adult outside the car. Knicks habit of turning on and turning off their relationship was known to Diane long before he admitted it in court a year later (Appendix 81, page 1520, line 21): Q. She was no mother of the year and in the car when the kids got shot. I personally disagree with that practice but it is common. All Filters. So Mark, where are you from? This is also what the state did to her. AKA: Robert Knickerboc, Ruk K Knickerbocker, Robt Knickerbocker +12 more. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. Moms were working more, we were becoming the latch key generation, as in we let ourselves in alone while still in elementary school.when I mentioned before about maturity of a 8, 9, 10 year oldwe loved playing outside on bikes, and playing with our dolls, boys usually had their action figures..lol.and we loved our moms, even if they were young and liked to go out and sent us to babysitters..the book and movie, Im quite sure, over did the situation..and Im sure there was more on both sides, the family of diane, diane herself, but well never know all the details. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as Small Sacrifices. But, after she had moved to Oregon for her job with the U.S. postal service, Roger reconciled with his wife. For some people, the best send-off is one that they would have loved to attendthemselves: a big party. I read the letter they sent to the Downs when they were fighting to see their grandchildren. For example, the abhorrent decision regarding Keli Lane: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.whimn.com.au/talk/news/why-i-think-keli-lane-should-not-be-in-prison/news-story/069a09c79589645c48de5bfa91e4ca0f. Washing soda is your best bet: It includes, among its ingredients, the exceedingly corrosive carbolic acid. Find Robert Knickerbocker's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. To listen to Christies taped conversation, click below. Or why the fact that he was a con artist made him such a credible guy in this case. No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. Again thats opinion, and neither balanced nor objective. She wrote to the governor several times after being dismissed coldly by Hugi and the system. 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